warning!!!!!! violence in family

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Comment by Lorenzo Abbiati on October 1, 2011 at 7:13am

leave a relationship doesn't mean escape.

the fact you escape helps keeping the wound open: "i won't be there cause there is a bad situation" but many says thed the agressor and the harrasser are to be under the same light of compassion.

First the aggressor/offender has to be rieducated to help him from harrassing other people ( educated not necessarily punished)

second but not second in importance the harrassed has to recover.

third point we have to prevent the abused one does not become in turn an offender himself.

usually third point is considered in prevention, but punishment (and i had a personal experience) is sometimes the only way to get the aggressor to stop his filthy habits.

Comment by Doreen A Agostino on September 27, 2011 at 2:26pm

Ciao Lorenzo.

You wrote: but the purpose of the group is to interrupt spiral or bad cycle in concomitant abusing situations such as well known stories of our own neighbourhood.......police often can't do much......

Lorenzo Beloved, in my view there is no bad. The greatest opportUNITY for each of us, as many world ages now come to a close, is to see abuser and abused as unique sparks of One Source, One Creator, One God, One Divine Light experiencing limitless possibilities of Itself in contrast or duality. Ego subtly finesses God and human, good and evil, Light and dark, Heaven and Earth, as one being divine while not the other, which denies Oneness.

God knows all things conceptually, and God is all things conceptually. God gets to know God experientially, rather than conceptually through every human, while every human on some level, agreed to forget that each of us is a unique cell of God, until The Plan of Creation EVOLved to its next highest expression which is NOW.

Lorenzo, nothing here is real, it's all illusion for Creator Source to EVOLve limitless possibilities of Itself and expand All That Is without judgment or exception. Many blessings to you my friend!

 

 

Comment by Lorenzo Abbiati on September 27, 2011 at 1:52pm

Thank you Doreen, you're a real friend.

as toltec philosophy says we've got to purify our wounds through compassion.

being abused is a challenge but cut definitely with the abuser is not the solution.

you really correctly say "find themselves the voice and courage to love themselves enough to leave the relationship"

this is a keypoint often the abuser is somene we love or someone we are linked to the courage first is to really leave the relationship.........as you find weaker notwithstanding you are weaker first of aLL you have to leave relationship..........

but the purpose of the group is to interrupt spiral or bad cyrcle in concomitant abusing situations such as well known stories of our own neighbourhood.......police often can't do much......

then if we bring to light "abusing patterns" and we start to bring forth abuse cases punishing the offender less offenders will fell less safe in their "smooth murder".

I would like that abused people with a micro help from brothers 95% of their work done but there's always one 5% we have to do externally to help out the situation.

I would like abused people or repented offenders contact me ........

I am convinced one of the discovery of the shift of 2012 will consist in abusing torture cyrcle breakdown,,,,,,, the cyrcle which made abused good person a misfit or the abused bad person an abuser,  an hero becomes from abused to a master of wisdom.......

thank you again dear Doreen for joining and comment.

Comment by Doreen A Agostino on September 27, 2011 at 11:21am

Hi Lorenzo.

Further to my earlier message, Universal Intelligence validated what I wrote to you by sending me a similar message from Ariel Ford.

Let me know if the link does  not work. The other link was too big to send.  Click here

Comment by Doreen A Agostino on September 27, 2011 at 9:50am

Hi Lorenzo.

May I offer some perspectives?

Individuals cannot change other people. Individuals can only change themselves for the better from the inside out, by replacing negativity with compassion, inner knowing and unconditional love.

Veiled from the whole truth, we do not know why people choose abusive relationships. What if abusers are a messenger, for abused people to find their voice and courage to love themselves enough to leave the relationship?

We can focus loving intention and attention on an abused person [s], with deep feelings of love and compassion, and ask our Higher Self to speak with the Higher Self of an abused person [s], with an offer of assistance when the abused person feels ready. Or, if an abused person is open, we can offer wisdom to help them seek and find the root cause of being in an abusive relationship. It is through conscious awareness and acceptance, that humans transform subconscious energetic information that rules 95% + of life experiences, negative or positive.

When humans consciously identify old patterns that dis-empower us, and take responsibility for them, the energy of abuse transforms into acceptance, self love, and wisdom, which magnetizes more of what do like and less of what we dislike.

Only an abused person can end cycles of abuse, when they are ready and willing to set themselves free.

Does this make sense?